Using Warren Buffet's Owners Earnings on Tech Stocks: Warning not for "growth" investors
Amazon's forward owner earnings yield of 4.1% (base case) to -1.0% (strict case) is below the author's investment threshold of >10%. Heavy AI infrastructure capex makes the valuation unattractive on an owner earnings basis.
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$AMZNr/ValueInvestingStock Analysisbullish u/sneezydig · 21d agono track record yet AMZN Stock Forecast 2030: The $1.6 Trillion Test
Amazon can deliver substantial value through 2030 despite massive near-term capex cycles and negative FCF if AWS scales as modeled and advertising maintains high margins. The company is projected to reach $334 billion operating income and $89 billion FCF in 2030, with AWS representing ~34% annual growth to $556 billion and advertising contributing ~85% of total operating profits alongside core cloud.
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AMZN earnings
AWS growth is accelerating alongside expanding advertising and logistics businesses. Despite heavy capex for AI and compute infrastructure, Amazon trades cheap relative to its competitive positioning and operating leverage, offering a ripe catalyst for a market rerating.
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Amazon: everything lies in the margins
Amazon is currently overvalued despite being a high-quality business with strong infrastructure and logistics advantages. The author's DCF models show extreme sensitivity to operating margin assumptions (20-30% margins produce valuations from $150-$255), and believes the company cannot realistically achieve both 3x revenue growth and 30% margins, making current pricing unsustainable.
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$AMZNr/ValueInvestingDiscussionbearish u/pravchaw · 78d ago6 prior · 67% at 3mo Is Circular Financing in AI setting up an epic blow-up?
Amazon's heavy capital commitment to Anthropic and AWS infrastructure faces similar circular financing risks as peers. If Anthropic's funding dries up or profitability doesn't materialize, Amazon's leveraged bet on AI-driven AWS growth could unwind, stranding massive infrastructure investment.
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“AMZN calls (sold off yesterday afternoon after earnings with gains)”
What a difference a day can make...
Amazon's earnings beat expectations, justifying the recovery and exit of underwater call positions at a profit.
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$AMZNr/wallstreetbetsGainbullish u/shutnr · 80d ago1 prior · awaiting results “AMZN calls, 2/2, roughly 10k”
Thanks Tim Apple 🫡
Author is betting on an upside move in AMZN via calls expiring 2/2, with a $10k allocation. The play represents a directional bet on price appreciation.
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The not so pretty stuff within the Amazon.com earnings report
Despite strong headline growth (AWS +37% YoY), Amazon's net income and operating cash flow disappointed relative to guidance. The company is aggressively investing ~$40B in non-marketable securities (primarily Anthropic) in just six months while facing deteriorating free cash flow (-$7.6B TTM), rapidly rising debt (up 96% to $129B), and off-balance-sheet obligations through SPVs that mask true financial obligations.
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$AMZNr/wallstreetbetsDiscussionbullish u/kamatbro · 81d agono track record yet Heavy AI CapEx isn't a mistake. It's Amazon's character
Amazon's heavy AI capital expenditure is consistent with its long-term strategy of reinvesting for future dominance rather than maximizing short-term profits. This pattern of sacrifice for leadership in transformative technologies has historically created value, and AI represents the next frontier where early investment positions Amazon for sustained competitive advantage.
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15 Investment write-ups to look at
AWS has a $364bn contracted backlog and silicon cutting costs are reducing compute expenses roughly in half. Fair value sits well above today's price.
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“I own some of it. I am not short anything.”
About $662B of hyperscaler leases have not commenced yet, and none of it is in the leverage ratios. The recognition boundary is the risk.
Major hyperscalers (Microsoft, Google, Meta, Amazon, Apple) face significant unrecognized lease obligations ($662B off-balance sheet under ASC 842) and residual-value guarantees on data-center leases. Reported leverage ratios exclude these commitments, creating an artificially low debt picture; management controls both lease commencement timing and useful-life assumptions, inflating reported margins by 20-27% until leases commence and guarantees are quantified.
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$AMZNr/ValueInvestingStock Analysisbullish u/reupped · 110d ago1 prior · awaiting results MSFT and AMZN both look cheap. Only one of them actually is.
AMZN trades at 28x trailing earnings near 5-year PE lows, but this understates value given record margins in Q1 and the potential for AI capex to drive future earnings growth. Unlike MSFT, AMZN's capital allocation is more disciplined despite near-term FCF pressure, offering asymmetric upside if AI investments pay off.
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Mega-caps getting into the value territory once again (GOOGL, AMZN, META, MSFT) - generational buying opportunity
Amazon valuations have fallen to levels not seen since April 2025, creating a generational buying opportunity. The author expects shares to trade at $1000+ within 4-5 years as current prices offer deep value.
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“Sold all shares”
Selling AI stocks
Author exited Amazon as part of broad AI trade exit, citing valuation disconnected from fundamental risks in supply chains, datacenter capacity, and macro headwinds.
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$AMZNr/wallstreetbetsGainbullish u/trsx5 · 155d ago2 prior · 33% at 3mo “Biggest plays: $LULU / $AMZN / $USO”
After 4 years.. i did it. +107K (realized) YTD.
Listed as one of the biggest plays that contributed to the author's +107K YTD realized gain during the historic bull recovery.
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Amazon's Chip Business Is Bigger Than AMD, Could Soon Pass Broadcom, Intel
Amazon's in-house chip business (Trainium, Inferentia) is already larger than AMD's and approaching Broadcom and Intel scale. By decoupling from expensive semiconductor supply chains through custom silicon, Amazon gains significant cost advantages and should continue gaining chip market share.
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“AMZN calls (rage bought more today, expiration tomorrow implied)”
If AMZN goes up 8% tomorrow this will be worth $1 million. If not, I’m cooked
Author is heavily leveraged into AMZN call options betting on an 8% move up tomorrow. Position has substantial profit potential if realized, implying conviction in imminent upside despite recent underperformance.
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“Did not specify exact current holding; noted opportunity to buy but unable to do so”
Stocks I am watching out for during this selloff.
Author views Amazon as undervalued despite a 29x P/E, with Amazon Prime Video as a strong #2 streaming platform. Attempted to buy at the recent $200 dip but missed the opportunity.
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Tech stocks lost $1 trillion this week despite beating earnings. Here's why.
Amazon's capex expected to reach $200B in 2026 versus $131.8B in 2025 signals a structurally deteriorating cash conversion profile despite AWS beating expectations. The capex escalation reflects the same GPU obsolescence economics that Burry identified, where rapid technological advancement forces replacement cycles every 2-3 years rather than the assumed 5-6 years, eroding long-term profitability.
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“focusing on google, Amazon and asml”
What’s everyone’s top stock they’re excited for and heavily investing in this year?
Author is heavily investing in Amazon as one of their top positions this year.
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